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Couple in smoking row over computer

3:19pm Monday 13th August 2007

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Photograph of the Author By Deborah Lewis »

A major electrical retail chain has been accused of discrimination against smokers after an engineer refused to fix a computer "full of nicotine".

Rosemary Dunn bought a £700 Advent PC from Currys in Whitebirk, Blackburn, 18 months ago.

She also took out a "whatever happens" policy which, in return for an additional £9 per month, ensures Currys will have the machine repaired no matter what damage is caused to it.

But when Rosemary and husband Lyndsay called out an engineer after a cup of tea was split on keyboard, they claimed they were told it would not be fixed because they had invalidated their policy by smoking.

Currys has said that the technician had genuine concerns but they wanted to resolve the matter amicably and has offered to inspect the computer.

Simon Clark, director of pro-smoking campaign Forest, said: "This is absolutely pathetic. It's a load of nonsense.

"Computers have been around a long time and it seems this is somebody else jumping on the anti-smoking bandwagon. It seems remarkable this occurred just after the smoking ban came in."

Mr Dunn, of Holmbrook Close, Blackburn, said: "Every time we rang the helpline they would give advice over the phone. It was only when the tea was spilt that they agreed to send someone out. He took the back off the computer and said I'm not touching that, it's full of nicotine'.

"He claimed it was a health hazard and that we had invalidated our policy because we smoke. He left without doing a thing.

"Admittedly it was covered in dust but we hadn't touched it because we didn't want to damage it.

"After he left we vacuumed it and it looked as good as new - it was clearly not nicotine as that would have stuck.

"Even if it was nicotine, there was nothing in the policy about invalidating it."

Currys press officer Mark Webb said: "The technician did express some genuine concerns, but we'd like to resolve this issue amicably.

"We have already been in contact and organised for the PC to be inspected at our workshop."

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tom, darwen says...
3:45pm Mon 13 Aug 07

If they invalidated the policy they invalidated the policy.

cm, says...
4:23pm Mon 13 Aug 07

read the whole report moron, the policy doesnt mention smoking/not smoking, you cannot invalidate what isnt there

Dipsy, says...
4:43pm Mon 13 Aug 07

So why exactly is this in the news? has the LET run out of stories? I reckon the Dunns are attention seekers, for god sake running to the LET because they didn't get their PC fixed. Sort it out with the company, there are much more important issues than your pathetic little story which nobody will give a sh!t about.

bystander, lancs says...
4:57pm Mon 13 Aug 07

Get a new keyboard for about two quid and stop moaning.

marcus, elsewhere says...
5:06pm Mon 13 Aug 07

I'm trying to work out who is the most pathetic
(a) the claimants who clearly need to get a life
(b) The LET for publishing this completely non-newsworthy event
(c) Currys for not saying that keyboards covered in toxins will be refused.

sensei, Lancs says...
5:08pm Mon 13 Aug 07

Something wrong here, why would tea on the keyboard damage the insides of the processor, Bystanders says, get a new keyboard.
Is it a slow NEWS day or what

paul, millhill says...
5:22pm Mon 13 Aug 07

I burnt my thumb today taking a dish out of the oven

Mr Random, Blackburn says...
5:34pm Mon 13 Aug 07

paul wrote:
I burnt my thumb today taking a dish out of the oven
I think you should sue the dish manufacturers for not stating "DO NOT TOUCH WITH BARE HANDS WHEN HOT" in big flashing letters.

JD, Blackburn says...
5:41pm Mon 13 Aug 07

<<<JD lazily picks his nose and is bombarded by LET reporters beating down his door...>>>
BLACKBURN MAN PICKS NOSE ON COUNCIL ESTATE:
'Today a Blackburn man was seen picking his nose in an aggressive manner.
It is thought that tissues were available on the property,but the man had repeatedly refuse to use them,stating he liked 'the hands-on approach'.
The police were not called to the scene.'

Jack Harkness, Torchwood Hub says...
6:14pm Mon 13 Aug 07

'And the award for National Dumbfounded Day goes to ...'

*falls over backwards in inredulity at what constitutes news nowadays, not to mention more digs at the smoking ban at the same time*

Once I worked for the BA, and a claim came in covered in someone's blood. Only thing was it came in the post boxes and we were STILL expected to handle it! I kid you not!

But I would just also say that the 'policies' you are sold by these places are at least as good as a wet piece of soggy paper ie USELESS! I digress.

And if the engineer was looking at the insides of the PC for a cuppa spilt on the keyboard ... er, mmm! Okay!

sod, sunny b/burn says...
6:15pm Mon 13 Aug 07

so you saw me then JD dont tell the town hall or papers or i get a fine

Jack Harkness, Torchwood Hub says...
6:30pm Mon 13 Aug 07

Oh, and maybe the £9 a month could go towards a perfectly good keyboard from Argos!

Ragnarok, Valhalla says...
7:11pm Mon 13 Aug 07

Jack Harkness wrote:
\'And the award for National Dumbfounded Day goes to ...\'

*falls over backwards in inredulity at what constitutes news nowadays, not to mention more digs at the smoking ban at the same time*

Once I worked for the BA, and a claim came in covered in someone\'s blood. Only thing was it came in the post boxes and we were STILL expected to handle it! I kid you not!

But I would just also say that the \'policies\' you are sold by these places are at least as good as a wet piece of soggy paper ie USELESS! I digress.

And if the engineer was looking at the insides of the PC for a cuppa spilt on the keyboard ... er, mmm! Okay!
HAHAHA!Hey,Jack!Don'

t be so hard on the LET;After all,if we didn't have completely unnecessary stories like this,we would not have a chance to ridicule the LET for the rag that it is!
I have noticed recently that certain relevant comments are deleted,while others that have no place in a comments page are mysteriously ignored...The LET is nothing more than a Sun wannabe with a lesser customer base.

Jack Harkness, Torchwood Hub says...
7:52pm Mon 13 Aug 07

My apologies, I will refrain from making 'offensive' comments that comment upon the 'Suns' *coughs* I meant LET's reporting tone/methods. *joke*

bystander, lancs says...
8:01pm Mon 13 Aug 07

"Admittedly it was covered in dust but we hadn't touched it because we didn't want to damage it. After he left we vacuumed it and it looked as good as new - it was clearly not nicotine as that would have stuck on."-Can't you just picture the scene, dust and ash covered PC and keyboard not to mention the cup of tea (do they take sugar?)bet the engineer didn't stop for a cuppa. Am very suprised they haven't played the disabled card yet.

Jack Harkness, Torchwood Hub says...
8:05pm Mon 13 Aug 07

Now, aside from finding the discriminatory claim utterly ludicrous not to mention OTT, extreme in the most extreme form you can get *whilst discrimination against the disabled, ill/sick and in the workplace goes largely unreported *you have to ask yourselves WHY if this is so 'discriminatory' as reported here, by the LET!** will we now see a whole new money making racket in the form of smokers allegedly discriminated against and 'no win no fees' claims rocketing as a result?

Don't laugh. It could very well happen!

Particularly as the LET chose to report it as such thus shaping readers views.

Creating an urban myth at the same time!

Ohh! Please can we have some real news, affecting REAL LIFE people affecting issues!

Is it too much to ask???


Col, Falkirk says...
8:15pm Mon 13 Aug 07

Smokers should have to pay more than us in society somehow as sick of my taxes being frittered away in the NHS on the countless smokers who increased their chances of illness and stay ahead in the queue of people who have lived a more sensible life.

JD, Blackburn says...
8:22pm Mon 13 Aug 07

Col wrote:
Smokers should have to pay more than us in society somehow as sick of my taxes being frittered away in the NHS on the countless smokers who increased their chances of illness and stay ahead in the queue of people who have lived a more sensible life.
Blimey,col;Chill out,mate,sit down and have a ciggy...

bystander, lancs says...
8:33pm Mon 13 Aug 07

"Admittedly it was covered in dust but we hadn't touched it because we didn't want to damage it. After he left we vacuumed it and it looked as good as new - it was clearly not nicotine as that would have stuck on."-Can't you just picture the scene, dust and ash covered PC and keyboard not to mention the cup of tea (do they take sugar?)bet the engineer didn't stop for a cuppa. Am very suprised they haven't played the disabled card yet.

Phill, lancashire says...
8:39pm Mon 13 Aug 07

col, do you wanna stop driving your car fumes are giving my children asthma and you don't pay extra national insurance to cover the treatment your causing them to need.

bystander, lancs says...
8:41pm Mon 13 Aug 07

Actually smokers should pay a lot LESS tax as they don't live as long and therefore don't claim as much in pensions etc.

Jack Harkness, Torchwood Hub says...
9:04pm Mon 13 Aug 07

My imagination? Or have some of the posts in here REALLY changed position??

Bill, says...
9:08pm Mon 13 Aug 07

They have children and they smoke in their house?

Nice.

AccyJay, Accrington says...
9:33pm Mon 13 Aug 07

Col wrote:
Smokers should have to pay more than us in society somehow as sick of my taxes being frittered away in the NHS on the countless smokers who increased their chances of illness and stay ahead in the queue of people who have lived a more sensible life.
Smokers already pay an absolute fortune in cigarette tax. If everybody gave up smoking tomorrow, the Government would have a huge black hole in it's finances to fill. Where would the lost revenue come from? You guessed it, a huge rise in everybodies taxes.

sod, costa del blackburn says...
10:45pm Mon 13 Aug 07

i think i need to see my doctor now to get some nicotine patches while on the pc otherwise i might have to get a new mouse

dave cee, slough says...
11:36pm Mon 13 Aug 07

maybe you should all get a life,this is just another cop-out for big companies to not spend any money,what next if you smoke,they wont fix your tv,stereo,fridge,coo


ker etc,you do gooders give em all the ammunition they need.

Jack Harkness, Torchwood Hub says...
2:22am Tue 14 Aug 07

Me, a 'do-gooder??' Don't make me laugh!

Me thinks it's more the LET's 'editorial' style than anything else. Same old same old.

Putting aside the 'nicotine' issues. One is familiar with the 'tactics' used by these engineers including that as reported.

But it's hardly 'discrimination' but another example of what mostly most people have to put up with through these 'policies'.

Everytime I go in Argos, no matter what I buy if it's even got BATTERIES first thing comes out of the cashiers mouth is 'would you like to purchase a three year policy that covers blah blah bler bleurgh'. No I flaming well would not! Money making, not worth the print on the paper.

One poor girl at PC world some years ago when I purchased my PC looked so heartbroken when I refused to purchase the £100 3 year insurance policy you'd have thought the world had ended.

Anyway, I digress.

Frank, Blackburn says...
7:58am Tue 14 Aug 07


Maybe the engineer should of stuck a Nicorette patch on the side of the PC! MWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHA

Les, accy says...
9:03am Tue 14 Aug 07

i got lots of **** on my keyboard and now the keys are stuck, i will be inviting the LET to cover the story and take photos.

I will gladly do a video reconstruction if its in the pubic interest.

bystander, lancs says...
9:45am Tue 14 Aug 07

This has been the best laugh this week. Now it's the silly season let's hope the LET can find more of these "Hold The Front Page" stories.PCs have rights and avoiding passive smoking is one of them.

sod, costa del b/burn says...
9:55am Tue 14 Aug 07

why can me make any COMMENTS on the hard storys hitting the papers lately

Mogster, Ewood says...
10:57am Tue 14 Aug 07

Loving this thread... apart from the bit in the middle where the smoker/non-smoker threatened to break out again! Anyway, I agree with all of you on this non-story... you can just see the shop assistant turning to his colleagues and saying, 'they say they're going to take this faulty £5 keyboard story to the telegraph. What kind of newspaper would class this as a story?'.....

billy1932, blackburn says...
12:45pm Tue 14 Aug 07

Bogus Bride jailed over fake weddings. Have her husbands been deported yet i bet they haven't. As for the Dunns " ring the C.A.B or Trading Standards" or just forgoe a packet of fags and buy a new keyboard. All the best to them

Jack Harkness, Torchwood Hub says...
2:07pm Tue 14 Aug 07

Not surprised the engineer refused to service the PC - have you SEEN the size of the keyboard in that picture?????????? LOL

CliveE, Burnley says...
9:08pm Tue 14 Aug 07

The engineer did not even need to touch the case of the computer.All he had to do was unplug the faulty keyboard and plug in a new one...Are Curry's using people from House of Horrors and dragging out a simple job to a long one to justify the £9 a month they take for these minor repairs?

Jack Harkness, Torchwood Hub says...
9:25pm Tue 14 Aug 07

Are Curry's using people from House of Horrors and dragging out a simple job to a long one to justify the £9 a month they take for these minor repairs?

Er, yes.

bystander, lancs says...
9:51pm Tue 14 Aug 07

Most staff at electrical retailers are poorly paid and have to make it up on commission. The bonus on extended warranties helps increase their pay.The trouble with PCs is that the moment you buy them they are out of date and worth very little so you may as well use them as an ashtray.

WALNUT, UK says...
10:56pm Tue 14 Aug 07

But when Rosemary and husband Lyndsay called out an engineer after a cup of tea was (split)? on keyboard, they claimed they were told it would not be fixed because they had invalidated their policy by smoking.Should it not read ......But when Rosemary and husband Lyndsay called out an engineer after a (SPLIF)on keyboard, they claimed they were told it would not be fixed because they had invalidated their policy by smoking.

pat, herts says...
11:55pm Tue 14 Aug 07

If the engineer refused to touch the computor because it was covered in nicotine then I suggest these people ask for their money back . How ridiculous things have got over smoking blame this pitiful government for bringing in such an unfair law.

bystander, lancs says...
11:21am Wed 15 Aug 07

Come on LET let's have a follow up story. This has been the Summer's biggest hit. How about some more photos of the couple gazing at the dead keyboard.

Jack Harkness, Torchwood Hub says...
3:35pm Wed 15 Aug 07

Ah, yes. I forgot that the UK has the poorest track record for the minimum wage, longest working hours under the working directive.

No wonder that poor girl's face turn to an 'ashen' white colour.


bystander, lancs says...
7:10pm Wed 15 Aug 07

The story is spreading and is now on Teletext. Cannot decide wether to buy the film rights.Keep up the good work readers of the LET

DEREK UTTLEY, GREAT HARWOOD says...
9:00pm Wed 15 Aug 07

If the engineer had been qualified instead of the pillock they sent and had a brain ,THIS STORY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN REPORTED IN THE FIRST PLACE


Jack Harkness, Torchwood Hub says...
10:16pm Wed 15 Aug 07

But no one has yet mentioned the rights of the keyboard? Having a hot cuppa spilled on you *either on purpose (reading between the lines it does READ that way as they couldn't get an engineer out until that happened) or by accidental design* must have been pretty traumatic for the poor wee thing.

I am of course joking!

But am looking forward to the epic 2008 summer blockbuster when the movie rights are cleared, scripted and a suitable 'just out of film school, never touched a film camera in their life just made a few Youtube vids on their mobiles' is finally readied for Multiplexing.

All of that said with the Gone With The Wind music underneath.

Jack Harkness, Torchwood Hub says...
10:17pm Wed 15 Aug 07

But no one has yet mentioned the rights of the keyboard? Having a hot cuppa spilled on you *either on purpose (reading between the lines it does READ that way as they couldn't get an engineer out until that happened) or by accidental design* must have been pretty traumatic for the poor wee thing.

I am of course joking!

But am looking forward to the epic 2008 summer blockbuster when the movie rights are cleared, scripted and a suitable 'just out of film school, never touched a film camera in their life just made a few Youtube vids on their mobiles' is finally readied for Multiplexing.

All of that said with the Gone With The Wind music underneath.

Jack Harkness, Torchwood Hub says...
10:18pm Wed 15 Aug 07

But no one has yet mentioned the rights of the keyboard? Having a hot cuppa spilled on you *either on purpose (reading between the lines it does READ that way as they couldn't get an engineer out until that happened) or by accidental design* must have been pretty traumatic for the poor wee thing.

I am of course joking!

But am looking forward to the epic 2008 summer blockbuster when the movie rights are cleared, scripted and a suitable 'just out of film school, never touched a film camera in their life just made a few Youtube vids on their mobiles' is finally readied for Multiplexing.

All of that said with the Gone With The Wind music underneath.

Jack Harkness, Torchwood Hub says...
10:25pm Wed 15 Aug 07

BTW I didn't duplicate my posts! There seems to be a bug on this site where you post then your message does not update. Then you re-enter it, thinking it wasn't accepted ... and this happens!


CC, says...
9:41am Thu 16 Aug 07

I notice this story is on the BBC website today - about a week after the LET.

me, sadly here, reading this says...
1:23pm Thu 16 Aug 07

What a load of bull! This is bugg£r all to do with discrimination, and more to do with stupidity!

The engineer has a right to work in a smoke-free environment. That's it. If the engineer does not want to handle the messy innards of a computer, he should have a pair of gloves.

As for those who say "smokers should pay more tax, my tax is paying for their smoking related poor health" - tobacco taxation brings £9.5 - £10.5 billion (depending on the source) to the treasury. NHS spending on smoking-related illness is £1.7 billion. That leaves £7.8 - £8.8 billion over. So, where is that argument again? Ah, lost. I love people who don't bother with facts (a bit like the main article).

Jack Harkness, Torchwood Hub says...
2:29pm Thu 16 Aug 07

Well, when it reaches CNN or Sky News we should all start to worry ... methinks!

plastic front of judea, on location says...
6:25pm Thu 16 Aug 07

what will happen to our....sorry...the,k
eyboard when it gets swapped?

andy, spain says...
9:12pm Thu 16 Aug 07

Wish Id took me Mrs to our local paper after she blew up her vibrator after a week. The look on my face when a Blonde Lass asked her if she had inserted it in a moist place and suggested she took it to an electrician. Gawd wish we had took the story to the press now. Keep up the Funnys LET please FFS.

Jack Harkness, Torchwood Hub says...
9:20pm Thu 16 Aug 07

Well, the keyboard ... taken to a far away land, where it was rehabilitated, renewed and restored to it's former glory before embarking upon an epic journey across the continents to find 'home ...'


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