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East Lancs churches could 'close over water bills'

3:20pm Sunday 20th July 2008

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A NUMBER of East Lancashire churches could be forced to close by proposed water bill rises of up to 1300 per cent, according to an MP.

Greg Pope, MP for Hyndburn and Haslingden, urged water bosses to scrap plans to class churches as businesses when calculating their bills.

Mr Pope said churches could have to abandon their traditional community places of worship -or close altogether - under United Utilities' proposed method of charging.

The firm is to introduce a new billing system for non-household customers for surface water and highways drainage.

Previously these properties have paid a fixed amount, based on the buidling's rateable value.

Under the new system, the charge would be based instead on the drained area occupied by a property and its site.

The changes, due to phased in between now and 2011, will affect 180,000 customers - including churches.

Critics say that because of the size of the land churches occupy some could see bills rise by 1300 per cent.

Mr Pope said: "This seems totally unfair. Churches are usually large buildings.

"Yet they use next to nothing when it comes to water, apart from the occasional baptism.

"This could lead to quite a few of them having to close. I have written to the chief executive of united Utilities and asked him to rethink this scheme."

A spokesman for the Blackburn Diocese said: "These are both unwarranted and unfair charges on parishes who represent the local community.

“We have formed a coalition with the dioceses of Liverpool, Manchester, Chester and Carlisle to oppose the charges.

"Our parishes are already under financial pressure and we appreciate the help of Mr Pope in our campaign."

United Utilities has offered to meet with the MP to discuss the issue.

The company, which serves seven million customers, stresses it would make no financial gain from these changes.

Brian Hurd, customer service director, said: "The aim is not to increase our revenue but to provide a system which better reflects the costs involved.

"This will mean that individual customers will see either increases or decreases in these charges.

"Rateable value was the most common method we have used up to now to assess charges.

"Although this does take account of property size, it is also influenced by a property's location and this can lead to many inconsistencies in charges for surface water drainage."


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frank, great harwood says...
7:45pm Sun 20 Jul 08

greed rules nowadays .i would have expected an mp to know that.
whats a few closed churches anyway, very few care about god until they're dying anyway.

eckythump, Burnley says...
10:17am Mon 21 Jul 08

So why shouldn't churches pay their whack? They are not individuals. Folk that go to gyms have to support the business so it can pay its water bills amongst other things. Folk that choose to go to church need to pay enough to pay the churches bills.

Joseph Yossarian, London says...
4:47pm Mon 21 Jul 08

Of course a church is a business - it has revenues and expenses (and tries to turn in a profit) just like any other enterprise.

The church makes plenty of money out of the land it owns. -Multi-millions in fact.
It is only fair that it should pay the same charges as any other significant landowner.

The church is absolutely minted and needs to stop whining and realise that it needs to adequately pay for the infrastructure it is responsible for. The rest of us should not have to subsidise.

The parishes to categorically not represent the local community; it is trite of the bishop to suggest they do.

The churches represent the church of england to the community and as only a tiny proportion of the community go to church it is downright ridiculous to imply that the wider community should help out.



Joseph Yossarian, London says...
4:50pm Mon 21 Jul 08

Next they'll be having a good old moan about how much it costs to heat their inefficient old buildings and shaking the collection tin for that too -

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